Response to: Samura bin Jundab will go to Fire


The following is a response to SlaveOfAhlubait’s article entitled: “Samura bin Jundab will go to Fire.” The article can be found here.

SoA quotes several narrations from Al-Bayhaqi that basically say the following:

قال يعقوب بن سفيان: ثنا عبيد الله بن معاذ، ثنا أبي، ثنا شعبة عن أبي سلمة، عن أبي نضرة، عن أبي هريرة أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال لعشرة من أصحابه: « آخركم موتا في النار » فيهم سمرة بن جندب قال أبو نضرة: فكان سمرة آخرهم موتا.
قال البيهقي: رواته ثقات إلا أن أبا نضرة العبدي لم يثبت له من أبي هريرة سماع والله أعلم

SoA translates this as:

holy prophet told 10 of his companions that the last one of them to die is in the fire; and amongst them was samura; abu nadara said that he was the last one to die
behqi said that all narrators are thiqa except that abu nadara did not hear from abu huraira; and allah knows best

SoA comments:

and he criticized the fact that abu nadara did not hear from abu huraira; and then he said allah knows best;
this in itself is a proof that he was not sure about it
rather; he tried to save him

The comments of SoA imply that Al-Bayhaqi is extremely biased, for Al-Bayhaqi says, as SoA quoted, “…and it is possible that he may enter hellfire, but then survive with his faith due to the intercession of the intercessors.” See Dala’il Al-Nubuwah 6/460.

The above statements by Al-Bayhaqi are clear in demonstrating that it does not go against his beliefs to hold the view that Samura might end up in hell, even if it was for a limited period of time.

However, his position is based on evidence and not wishful thinking, for Abu Nadra is known to not narrate through Abu Huraira, but through unknown narrators as intermediaries instead.

In response to Al-Bayhaqi, SoA provides two quotes from scholars that Abu Nadra narrated from Abu Huraira. The first is from Al-Dhahabi and the second is from Ibn Hajar. Little does SoA realize that these lists are produced in order to name those that the student has narrated from. Such lists cannot be relied upon to establish that these people heard from each other. The difference between “narrating from” and “hearing from” is a significant one.

To further solidify this point, we quote Al-Dhahabi’s (Siyar A’alam Al-Nubala’a 2/1938) actual opinion of Abu Nadra’s narration from Abu Huraira:

ولم يصح لأبي نضرة السماع من أبي هريرة

“And there is no proof that Abi Nadra head from Abi Huraira.”

Besides how can the Shia even use this narration? It shows that Abu Hurayrah is in heaven, the man they accuse of being a traitor, a liar, a pro-Umayyad is in heaven according to this Hadith.

If the point of the Rafidah is to prove that some companions may go to the fire, then this is known to everyone, for example the companion who fought valiantly in battle then struck himself with an arrow because he couldn’t bear the pain of his wounds, Rasul-Allah (saw) said he shall be in the fire since suicide is forbidden.

Another matter was once mentioned and we state it for the benefit, it is popular in the books that Samura died by the fire in the worldly life, so some scholars said that this was what is meant when Rasul-Allah (saw) said: “The last of you to die is in the fire.” And this is when Samura was an old man and he was very sick and felt great coldness, so it says in the narration in “Mushkil Athar al-Tahawi”:

فَأُتِيَ بِقِدْرٍ عَظِيمَةٍ، فَمُلِئَتْ مَاءً، وَأُوقِدَ تَحْتَهَا، وَاتَّخَذَ هُوَ فَوْقَهَا مَجْلِسًا، فَكَانَ يَصْعَدُ إِلَيْهِ فَيَجِدُ حَرَارَتَهَا فَتُدْفِئُهُ، فَبَيْنَمَا هُوَ كَذَلِكَ إِذْ خُسِفَ بِهِ

[“… So they brought him a big cauldron filled with water, they lit fire under it and he used to sit above it to warm himself with the heat but one time it collapsed and he fell (into the fire)…”]

May Allah save us all from the real fire.

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